Backing up Synapse EMR express (aka the Local Installation version)

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  1. Jason

    Jason Developer / Handyman Staff Member

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    We recently came across a neat and free backup scheduler that works for Firebird database tables.

    allows you to schedule backups on the hour or minute, and also allows
    the backup to be compressed with gzip compression. FIBS uses gbak, the
    utility included with Firebird so that you know that your data is
    safe. Copying and compressing database files with non specific
    database utilities while the Firebird server is live is a definite no
    no as it can cause database corruption.

    FIBS can also send
    backups to a ftp server, but since ftp is not secure, this would not be
    recommended. Reports of backup failures are optionally emailed to you.

    reduces the space of your data by 80% so makes it easier to take your
    data offsite. HIPAA regulations state that your data should be backed
    up and taken offsite daily.

    How do these settings look Graham ?

    Attached Files:

  2. Jason

    Jason Developer / Handyman Staff Member

    Screen Just before Backup.

    Attached Files:

  3. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    Looks okay to me .. just not sure about the garbage collection.

    Do you really want to keep 99 backups!
  4. qilin

    qilin Member

    The cache-listener folderis not included in this backup, what tool do you use to back up the cache-listener folder??
  5. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    the firebird table is a special file so needs special tools to backup.

    The cache-listener files are just data files .. you can use anything including copy to back them up.

  6. qilin

    qilin Member

    I know that. I mean, what do you actually use? You would want the same backup schedule as the main database, I suppose.
  7. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    I use cwrsync, and no, different schedule.

  8. Jason

    Jason Developer / Handyman Staff Member

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    I use a few methods.

    (1) Nightly 3am backups with Acronis True Image of the entire "server" computer (with the patient files).

    (2) Once weekly copying of the directory to a D: drive (manually).

    (3) Once weekly copying of the directory to aExternal harddrive (manually).

    Plans: Acronis True Image Directory Mirroring. (not implemented).

    I would note that Foldershare would do an excellent job of this type of backing up.

  9. qilin

    qilin Member


    The server need to be shut down for you to do copying of the entire folder, otherwise you have risk of corrupting the database. The dictation files (maybe some other files too?)were saved in the same folder as the database file. This prevents backup copying the folder when the server is running.

    Suggest: use a separate folder for all temporary files other than the database file so automatic backup is possible for both cache-listener folder and all the other files using a different application (my choice now is Secondcopy). And use FIBs for database file backup.
  10. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    You should move the database file out of the listener folder so that you can use any tool to back up that directory. But ensure that database backups go to the listener directory.

    Just use the ODBC control panel to relink the database file location.

  11. qilin

    qilin Member

    the database file is not in the listener folder, but the dictation files are saved automatically by Synapse together with the database file in the same folder
  12. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    I'm not sure what you are saying.

    Anything in the listener folder is safe to copy ... except the active remr.fdb file .. that should not be in that directory.

  13. qilin

    qilin Member

    the dictation voice file I attached to a consult appears in the same folder as REMR.FDB but not in the cache-listener folder
  14. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    If that is the case, then it's a bug.

    Can you reproduce this ?

    Is your remr.fdb in the same directory as synapse-server.exe ??
  15. qilin

    qilin Member

    yes, they are in the same folder. i'll try separating them.
  16. qilin

    qilin Member

    Everything is working fine now, dictations now are saved in "cache-listener" folder. I moved REMR.FDB to a separate folder.

    So, REMR.FDB and "cache-listener" folder are all that need to be backed up, right?
  17. Graham

    Graham Developer Staff Member

    That's correct.

  18. Jason

    Jason Developer / Handyman Staff Member

    That's all I backup.
  19. laumansm

    laumansm New Member

    Another option:

    Use Cobian Backup, which is free. Do a nightly scheduled backup of both the cache-listener directory as well as the database file. Prior to that happening, have Cobian automatically pause or stop synapse-server and automatically restart it after execution of the backup. Have Cobian automatically upload the compressed files to your ftp server via SSH. Still, you would have to check your backup files once in a while to make sure that they actually work.

  20. Jason

    Jason Developer / Handyman Staff Member

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